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#Genealogia.org.mx 35470 Busco acta de matrimonio/ marriage record

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Hola, estoy buscando el acta de matrimonio de Candido Aguirre y Eduviges Rodriguez. Su hijo Faustino fue bautizado en el año de 1866 en Linares NL pero el acta dice que nacio en un lugar Las Magiuras asi que supongo que ellos también eran de ese lugar. Los padres de Candido eran Julian Aguirre y Petra Mancilla y los de Eduviges Francisco Rodriguez y Petra Gallegos.

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Carlos . . if you want to hear something really funny.

You know that bit of knee-bending by “Show-time Pelosi” in Congress . . . to show her support for
Black Lives Matter.

I heard an African-American historian speaking on the historical ignorance of Pelosi and the Democrats displayed. He was so frustrated.

You remember the long matching shawl that they all wore at the kneeling ceremony:

It is the tribal shawl for the African Tribe which were the worst slave traders in Africa and the Middle-East.
Sorry I did not write the tribe name down. I was busy laughing.

So it appears that historic ignorance is not only a problem for Mexican-Americans and other Spanish language . . but also activist African-Americans. Unfortunately the African-Americans and American Indigenous are together are wanting to blame the Spanish for every wrong during the colonization, instead of the English. Makes it even more difficult to get to the facts . . . . that is why I love personal family history research.

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La lectura cura la peor de las enfermedades humanas, "la ignorancia".
Reading cures the worst of human diseases "Ignorance"

I agree with you Mimi,

Here we go again, more Black Legend ! Blame the Spanish for slavery …. we may as well blame them for the hurricanes.
Every society in the world has had a period of slavery, so it is not a unique Anglo-American experience, it is just the most recent !
Certainly the Spanish had some but never on the industrial scale of Anglo-America and maybe also Brazil (strange that we never hear about the Portuguese slavery in Brazil).

The Africans came as well from societies that enslaved and sold them to the Portuguese and British. Does anyone blame those Africans that first profited from the original capture and sale?
The Aztecs enslaved the Tlaxcalans, Otomi, Cholulteca, Totonaca, the Xochimilca and many other MesoAmerican nations. Does anyone blame the Aztecs for it?? They call traitors nowadays to those tribes/nations that became allies of the Spanish to end their slavery by the Aztecs! Where is the congruence in their statements?
The Muslims enslaved European Christians in Northern Africa and the Mediterrenean (yes, white slaves)…. and many other examples.
As despicable as it is, if one is to write about any topic such as this one the author should present the facts and documentation, otherwise it is an opinion. If it has a catchy title it is most likely propaganda and since it is likely against the Spanish then it is Black Legend! (unless proven otherwise).

Sorry to see that, it could have been a great topic of enormous importance. An in-depth well documented article about this topic is long overdue!
Hopefully, someone will suggest it to the author….
Respectfully,
Saludos cordiales,
Carlos

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 21:13, mimilozano via Genealogía de México – Genealogia-Mexico> wrote:

John . . as I recall . . . the African slaves fled from the British to freedom at Spanish Fort Moses (spl).
I seem to remember including an article in Somos Primos about that history.

Sugar cane workers in the Caribbean islands were perhaps slaves but sugar cane was for rum and it was the English who produced and sold rum to Europe. The English also traded with hemp and produced tobacco. Those were plantation economies . . .

The Spanish had a ranch style of economy, raising cattle, horses, sheep, and goats. Those do not require the man power . . . which raising sugar cane, tobacco and hemp require.

Yes . . the Portuguese were involved in slave trade, but again, they were best known for their sheep tending economy.

There were probably some slaves among the early Spanish colonizers, but I would think VERY few. Those ships were small, they brought their own horses, and were responsible for their own equipment. I would think only the wealthy would bring A slave with them, and most of the Spanish soldiers were not of the landed-Spanish wealthy.

h u m m m . . .

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John . . as I recall . . . the African slaves fled from the British to freedom at Spanish Fort Moses (spl).
I seem to remember including an article in Somos Primos about that history.

Sugar cane workers in the Caribbean islands were perhaps slaves but sugar cane was for rum and it was the English who produced and sold rum to Europe. The English also traded with hemp and produced tobacco. Those were plantation economies . . .

The Spanish had a ranch style of economy, raising cattle, horses, sheep, and goats. Those do not require the man power . . . which raising sugar cane, tobacco and hemp require.

Yes . . the Portuguese were involved in slave trade, but again, they were best known for their sheep tending economy.

There were probably some slaves among the early Spanish colonizers, but I would think VERY few. Those ships were small, they brought their own horses, and were responsible for their own equipment. I would think only the wealthy would bring A slave with them, and most of the Spanish soldiers were not of the landed-Spanish wealthy.

h u m m m . . .

#Genealogia.org.mx 35464 opisthodomos@hotmail.com pidió unirse al grupo Genealogía de México – Genealogia.org .mx. Mensaje de Sí. Mis últimos ancestros son: Pedro Martínez de Izábal (muerto 1801) Inés de Ibarra (1652-1731) D iego fernández Rojo (1645) Francisco López de Siquei

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opisthodomos pidió unirse al grupo Genealogía de México – Genealogia.org.mx.
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Sí. Mis últimos ancestros son: Pedro Martínez de Izábal (muerto 1801) Inés de Ibarra (1652-1731) Diego fernández Rojo (1645) Francisco López de Siqueiros Saavedra Joseph de Ibarra, esposo de María de urízar Juan De Cabanilla esposo de María de Ochoa y Galarraga Francesa de Zazuetta (1660) Miguel de Cebreros (1480) Alonso de Coria (1460) Gutierre de Badajoz (1470) Catalina de Chávez (1472) Isabel de Oliveiros (1490) Manuel Donis Soto (1733) Ambrosio de Urrea (1665) María Rosa de Cebreros (1710)

#Genealogia.org.mx 35464 Re: Nuevo miembro

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Saludos, estoy buscando la genealogía de mi familia (perdón si no es la expresión correcta).Mis abuelos paternos y maternos son de Jalisco; los maternos de la ciénega de Chapala (La Barca, en Jalisco, Vista Hermosa, La Angostura, Ixtlán de los Hervores en Michoacán). Y los paternos de Guadalajara, aunque vivieron (y murieron algunos) en la Ciudad de México, antes D.F.
Saludo respetuoso y espero ayuda y comentarios.

On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 10:04:42 AM UTC-5, Genealogia.org.mx wrote:


luis.guillermocn@gmail.com

16 jul. 2020
Padre: Guillermo Castellanos Suarez (1928. Guadalajara, Jalisco) – Abuelos: Domingo Castellanos (Chapala, Jalisco), Esther Suárez (creo que su familia era de La Piedad, Mich). Madre: Guillermina (Juana) Navarro Alvarez (1931. La Barca, Jalisco) Abuelos: Refugio Navarro Barragán (La Angostura, Mich), María de Jesús Alvarez. (?).

#Genealogia.org.mx 35464 Re: María Josepha Fernández

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Buenas tardes! En el libro de Matrimonios en la Catedral de Monterrey, libros 1 y 2 de 1667-1781, encontre informacion:Matrimonio: 28 de Diciembre de 1727, nupcias de Miguel Barrera con Maria Josepha Fernandez, hija de Lasaro Fernandez y Maria de la Garza. Informacion proporcionada por Refugo Fernandez. Gracias

On Monday, July 6, 2020 at 11:48:35 PM UTC-5 Vela wrote:

Hola estaba buscando a mis ancestros y me encontré con este acta de matrimonio de Miguel Barreda o Barrera con María Josepha Fernández en el año de 1727, en el caso de Josepha Fernández dice que sus padres son Lorenzo Fernández y María de la Garza pero a ellos no los encuentro por ninguna parte y quisiera preguntarles si consideran que sus padres pue dieran ser Antonio Fernández Vallejo y Nicolasa de la Garza
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS24-1Q

Gracias 😊

#Genealogia.org.mx 35461 Simón Treviño y Josepha de la Garza

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Hola Lety

La fecha de defunción debe estar equivocada o es otro Simón Treviño, pues tiene hijos bautizados en 1763, 1770 y 1773

Saludos

Joel

De: genealogia-mexico@googlegroups.com [mailto:genealogia-mexico@googlegroups.com] En nombre de Leticia De Los Santos
Enviado el: lunes, 20 de julio de 2020 03:02 a. m.
Para: Genealogia-Mexico@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Re: #Genealogia.org.mx 35446 Simon Treviño y Josepha de la Garza

Joel no encontré matrimonio pero si la defunción de Simón el 10 de febrero de 1751 en Villaldama

Leticia de los Santos

El El sáb, 18 de julio de 2020 a la(s) 22:18, Joel Villanueva <villanueva.joel.h> escribió:

Buenos dias

Estoy buscando informacion de la famila de Simon Treviño y Josepha de la Cerda

Estimo casaron en 1762 en Villaldama, NL

Los hijos que tengo de este matrimonio son: Joseph Ramon Treviño Cerda nacido en Sep 1763 en Villaldama y Joseph Manuel Treviño Cerda, nacido el 3 de Junio de 1773 en Villaldama

Saludos

Joel H Villanueva